I would think any that allow you to use RS232 Modbus RTU at a compatible data rate could be made to work. Without knowing your experience in C programming or programming industrial controls it might be steep learning curve, or it might be a piece of cake for you.

 

I have a KFLOP/KANALOG connected to a Automation Direct Do-More PLC and that is connected to a Automation Direct C-More Micro 6” HMI. I am using this setup because the price was right. I would use a Automation Direct CLICK PLC if I were to be buying the parts new. I am doing this because I needed additional I/O and the PLC currently has 4 serial ports and is plenty fast to hand being the “middle man”. I am not using the HMI for any functions yet, just some testing because I have no place to mount it yet.

 

 

Dan

 

From: mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:17 PM

To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop

 

 

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for a touchscreen HMI unit which would be a good fit for a KFlop/SnapAmp-controlled lathe. Has anyone come across one that you would recommend?

What kind of features should I watch for with regard to connectivity?

Thanks,
David.

 

I am using a touch-screen monitor with the PC for the kflop on my 3-axis mill.
I'm running KMotionCNC, and the whole thing is a very simple setup and works great!
 
Michael Rosenfield
 

Group: DynoMotion	Message: 10528	From: Michael Rosenfield	Date: 11/20/2014
Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop

David, I'm a little rusty on this - have to wake up the old brain cells! The KFlop itself doesn't specifically need a pc (after it has been configured) but it does need something to tell it what to do. So, for the milling application, something needs to organize the motion commands and then send them to the KFlop. For that, I use DynoMotion's KMotionCNC software, which runs on the PC. Lots of people use another PC-based set of software called Mach3. Both of these allow custom routines to be fed to the KFlop, and both allow varying amounts of customization to the operating console display screen, which is the PC monitor. The beauty of the KFlop is that it can be easily customized for any application, as long as you have someone to write the software for it. For common machine tools, many people have already written this, so there's a lot out there to use. Dynomotion's tech support is second to none, and the user group is also fantastic.   KMotionCNC supports custom routines with a screen button press, and they are very straightforward to implement, as long as you can do some C programming. As I said, lots of help is available in this area! Customizing the screen look of KMotionCNC is more limited (as of a year ago; I haven't looked at any changes since then) unless you want to do some heavy C programming under Windows. But I found it more than adequate for dealing with my mill.   Of course, the HMI is just another computer that has been pre-programmed to make user-customization of the look very easy. I looked into one for my mill, but I found them to be very expensive - close to $1000, as I recall. I ended up finding a used touch-screen monitor on EBay for $250, and although it is not as compact as many of the HMI's, functionally it is perfect. One still needs a keyboard for the PC for some applications - especially PC maintenance and file handling - but it's generally not used while making parts.   A bit long winded, but I hope this helps!   Michael   Group: DynoMotion Message: 10529 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 11/20/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Hi David, I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you. I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard. Let us know what you decide and how it works out. Regards TK Group: DynoMotion Message: 10530 From: Adrian Balan Date: 11/20/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Attachments : Hi TK,   That is a good news for me.  I have a project for a Automatic Glue Applicator and it will be excellent if  the path can be loaded through USB/RS232 interface and run without   any additional hardware (PC & monitor). So, could you be more detailed about how you can run a simple app direct from KFLOP?   Thanks, Adrian   From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] Sent: November 20, 2014 12:20 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi David, I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you. I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard. Let us know what you decide and how it works out. Regards TK   From: "Michael Rosenfield mrosenfield@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> To: "DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com" <dynomotion@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     David, I'm a little rusty on this - have to wake up the old brain cells! The KFlop itself doesn't specifically need a pc (after it has been configured) but it does need something to tell it what to do. So, for the milling application, something needs to organize the motion commands and then send them to the KFlop. For that, I use DynoMotion's KMotionCNC software, which runs on the PC. Lots of people use another PC-based set of software called Mach3. Both of these allow custom routines to be fed to the KFlop, and both allow varying amounts of customization to the operating console display screen, which is the PC monitor. The beauty of the KFlop is that it can be easily customized for any application, as long as you have someone to write the software for it. For common machine tools, many people have already written this, so there's a lot out there to use. Dynomotion's tech support is second to none, and the user group is also fantastic.   KMotionCNC supports custom routines with a screen button press, and they are very straightforward to implement, as long as you can do some C programming. As I said, lots of help is available in this area! Customizing the screen look of KMotionCNC is more limited (as of a year ago; I haven't looked at any changes since then) unless you want to do some heavy C programming under Windows. But I found it more than adequate for dealing with my mill.   Of course, the HMI is just another computer that has been pre-programmed to make user-customization of the look very easy. I looked into one for my mill, but I found them to be very expensive - close to $1000, as I recall. I ended up finding a used touch-screen monitor on EBay for $250, and although it is not as compact as many of the HMI's, functionally it is perfect. One still needs a keyboard for the PC for some applications - especially PC maintenance and file handling - but it's generally not used while making parts.   A bit long winded, but I hope this helps!   Michael     To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:26:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   Hi Michael, I wonder if the PC is the key. Does KFlop need the PC to run custom routines? I do use a couple of Windows based special programs. Thanks, David. On 11/19/2014 10:46 PM, Michael Rosenfield mrosenfield@... [DynoMotion] wrote:     I am using a touch-screen monitor with the PC for the kflop on my 3-axis mill. I'm running KMotionCNC, and the whole thing is a very simple setup and works great!   Michael Rosenfield   To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:29:03 -0600 Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   I would think any that allow you to use RS232 Modbus RTU at a compatible data rate could be made to work. Without knowing your experience in C programming or programming industrial controls it might be steep learning curve, or it might be a piece of cake for you.   I have a KFLOP/KANALOG connected to a Automation Direct Do-More PLC and that is connected to a Automation Direct C-More Micro 6” HMI. I am using this setup because the price was right. I would use a Automation Direct CLICK PLC if I were to be buying the parts new. I am doing this because I needed additional I/O and the PLC currently has 4 serial ports and is plenty fast to hand being the “middle man”. I am not using the HMI for any functions yet, just some testing because I have no place to mount it yet.     Dan   From: mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:17 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hello Everyone, I am looking for a touchscreen HMI unit which would be a good fit for a KFlop/SnapAmp-controlled lathe. Has anyone come across one that you would recommend? What kind of features should I watch for with regard to connectivity? Thanks, David.       Group: DynoMotion Message: 10531 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 11/20/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Hi Adrian, Could you give more details on your application?  If or how often would the pattern change?  How complex would the Pattern be?  Are you capable of writing a Windows Program to send the Pattern to KFLOP via USB?  What is your background? Regards TK Group: DynoMotion Message: 10532 From: Adrian Balan Date: 11/20/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Attachments : Hi TK,   The job requirements is to change the path, that consists of lines and arcs,  once in a while. My background is in electronics, I know  a bit of C ( C for microcontrollers ) but finding someone to help me with a windows program won't be a problem if  I can define very well the requirements. I am thinking of a KFLOP ( microcontroller) interface,  to be able to transfer the path info from an external memory, like USB or SD card. Will be this approach a good one or is it to much headache for something that can be done with a cheap PC ?   Thanks, Adrian   From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] Sent: November 20, 2014 1:46 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi Adrian,   Could you give more details on your application?  If or how often would the pattern change?  How complex would the Pattern be?  Are you capable of writing a Windows Program to send the Pattern to KFLOP via USB?  What is your background?   Regards TK   From: "'Adrian Balan' adrian@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:31 AM Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi TK,   That is a good news for me.  I have a project for a Automatic Glue Applicator and it will be excellent if  the path can be loaded through USB/RS232 interface and run without   any additional hardware (PC & monitor). So, could you be more detailed about how you can run a simple app direct from KFLOP?   Thanks, Adrian     From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] Sent: November 20, 2014 12:20 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi David,   I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you.   I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard.   Let us know what you decide and how it works out.   Regards TK   From: "Michael Rosenfield mrosenfield@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> To: "DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com" <dynomotion@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     David, I'm a little rusty on this - have to wake up the old brain cells! The KFlop itself doesn't specifically need a pc (after it has been configured) but it does need something to tell it what to do. So, for the milling application, something needs to organize the motion commands and then send them to the KFlop. For that, I use DynoMotion's KMotionCNC software, which runs on the PC. Lots of people use another PC-based set of software called Mach3. Both of these allow custom routines to be fed to the KFlop, and both allow varying amounts of customization to the operating console display screen, which is the PC monitor. The beauty of the KFlop is that it can be easily customized for any application, as long as you have someone to write the software for it. For common machine tools, many people have already written this, so there's a lot out there to use. Dynomotion's tech support is second to none, and the user group is also fantastic.   KMotionCNC supports custom routines with a screen button press, and they are very straightforward to implement, as long as you can do some C programming. As I said, lots of help is available in this area! Customizing the screen look of KMotionCNC is more limited (as of a year ago; I haven't looked at any changes since then) unless you want to do some heavy C programming under Windows. But I found it more than adequate for dealing with my mill.   Of course, the HMI is just another computer that has been pre-programmed to make user-customization of the look very easy. I looked into one for my mill, but I found them to be very expensive - close to $1000, as I recall. I ended up finding a used touch-screen monitor on EBay for $250, and although it is not as compact as many of the HMI's, functionally it is perfect. One still needs a keyboard for the PC for some applications - especially PC maintenance and file handling - but it's generally not used while making parts.   A bit long winded, but I hope this helps!   Michael     To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:26:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   Hi Michael, I wonder if the PC is the key. Does KFlop need the PC to run custom routines? I do use a couple of Windows based special programs. Thanks, David. On 11/19/2014 10:46 PM, Michael Rosenfield mrosenfield@... [DynoMotion] wrote:     I am using a touch-screen monitor with the PC for the kflop on my 3-axis mill. I'm running KMotionCNC, and the whole thing is a very simple setup and works great!   Michael Rosenfield   To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:29:03 -0600 Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   I would think any that allow you to use RS232 Modbus RTU at a compatible data rate could be made to work. Without knowing your experience in C programming or programming industrial controls it might be steep learning curve, or it might be a piece of cake for you.   I have a KFLOP/KANALOG connected to a Automation Direct Do-More PLC and that is connected to a Automation Direct C-More Micro 6” HMI. I am using this setup because the price was right. I would use a Automation Direct CLICK PLC if I were to be buying the parts new. I am doing this because I needed additional I/O and the PLC currently has 4 serial ports and is plenty fast to hand being the “middle man”. I am not using the HMI for any functions yet, just some testing because I have no place to mount it yet.     Dan   From: mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:17 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hello Everyone, I am looking for a touchscreen HMI unit which would be a good fit for a KFlop/SnapAmp-controlled lathe. Has anyone come across one that you would recommend? What kind of features should I watch for with regard to connectivity? Thanks, David.         Group: DynoMotion Message: 10533 From: Tom Kerekes Date: 11/20/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Hi Adrian, You didn't really answer how complex the pattern would be.  How many lines and arcs would be required to describe the path?   Would the Lines and Arcs be sufficiently long such that the acceleration/decelleration could be performed entirely within one Line or Arc?  Or would more complicated trajectory planning be required? KFLOP has ~ 1MByte of Flash memory.  Would that be sufficient to describe the path?  KFLOP is a USB client.  It isn't a Host that can read USB Thumb Drives.  You might write a PC program to download an Flash the pattern data to KFLOP's memory. You might look at the example CoordMotionInKFLOPTest.c I recall one user made a Cake Decorating machine that was repeatedly used to dispense "Happy Birthday" onto cakes.  He used a trick where he used KMotionCNC to download the motion to KFLOP's Coordinated motion Buffer and run the pattern once.  He then simply Flashed an image of the Coordinated Motion Buffer Memory.  On the next Power Up cycle he just restored the image. Regards TK Group: DynoMotion Message: 10534 From: David Stevenson Date: 11/21/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Thanks very much to everyone. It looks like I had better stick to the PC and I will certainly let you know what I come up with. Best regards, David. On 11/20/2014 12:19 PM, Tom Kerekes tk@... [DynoMotion] wrote:   Hi David, I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you. I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard. Let us know what you decide and how it works out. Regards TK Group: DynoMotion Message: 10535 From: Adrian Balan Date: 11/21/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Attachments : Hi  TK,   That's a good news. My application is less complex than a "Happy Birthday" text, so it is possible and I will start experimenting.   Thanks for guidance and support, Adrian       From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] Sent: November 20, 2014 7:53 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi Adrian, You didn't really answer how complex the pattern would be.  How many lines and arcs would be required to describe the path?   Would the Lines and Arcs be sufficiently long such that the acceleration/decelleration could be performed entirely within one Line or Arc?  Or would more complicated trajectory planning be required? KFLOP has ~ 1MByte of Flash memory.  Would that be sufficient to describe the path?  KFLOP is a USB client.  It isn't a Host that can read USB Thumb Drives.  You might write a PC program to download an Flash the pattern data to KFLOP's memory. You might look at the example CoordMotionInKFLOPTest.c I recall one user made a Cake Decorating machine that was repeatedly used to dispense "Happy Birthday" onto cakes.  He used a trick where he used KMotionCNC to download the motion to KFLOP's Coordinated motion Buffer and run the pattern once.  He then simply Flashed an image of the Coordinated Motion Buffer Memory.  On the next Power Up cycle he just restored the image. Regards TK   From: "'Adrian Balan' adrian@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi TK,   The job requirements is to change the path, that consists of lines and arcs,  once in a while. My background is in electronics, I know  a bit of C ( C for microcontrollers ) but finding someone to help me with a windows program won't be a problem if  I can define very well the requirements. I am thinking of a KFLOP ( microcontroller) interface,  to be able to transfer the path info from an external memory, like USB or SD card. Will be this approach a good one or is it to much headache for something that can be done with a cheap PC ?   Thanks, Adrian     From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] Sent: November 20, 2014 1:46 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi Adrian,   Could you give more details on your application?  If or how often would the pattern change?  How complex would the Pattern be?  Are you capable of writing a Windows Program to send the Pattern to KFLOP via USB?  What is your background?   Regards TK   From: "'Adrian Balan' adrian@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 10:31 AM Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi TK,   That is a good news for me.  I have a project for a Automatic Glue Applicator and it will be excellent if  the path can be loaded through USB/RS232 interface and run without   any additional hardware (PC & monitor). So, could you be more detailed about how you can run a simple app direct from KFLOP?   Thanks, Adrian     From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com] Sent: November 20, 2014 12:20 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hi David,   I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you.   I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard.   Let us know what you decide and how it works out.   Regards TK   From: "Michael Rosenfield mrosenfield@... [DynoMotion]" <DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com> To: "DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com" <dynomotion@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 7:21 AM Subject: RE: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     David, I'm a little rusty on this - have to wake up the old brain cells! The KFlop itself doesn't specifically need a pc (after it has been configured) but it does need something to tell it what to do. So, for the milling application, something needs to organize the motion commands and then send them to the KFlop. For that, I use DynoMotion's KMotionCNC software, which runs on the PC. Lots of people use another PC-based set of software called Mach3. Both of these allow custom routines to be fed to the KFlop, and both allow varying amounts of customization to the operating console display screen, which is the PC monitor. The beauty of the KFlop is that it can be easily customized for any application, as long as you have someone to write the software for it. For common machine tools, many people have already written this, so there's a lot out there to use. Dynomotion's tech support is second to none, and the user group is also fantastic.   KMotionCNC supports custom routines with a screen button press, and they are very straightforward to implement, as long as you can do some C programming. As I said, lots of help is available in this area! Customizing the screen look of KMotionCNC is more limited (as of a year ago; I haven't looked at any changes since then) unless you want to do some heavy C programming under Windows. But I found it more than adequate for dealing with my mill.   Of course, the HMI is just another computer that has been pre-programmed to make user-customization of the look very easy. I looked into one for my mill, but I found them to be very expensive - close to $1000, as I recall. I ended up finding a used touch-screen monitor on EBay for $250, and although it is not as compact as many of the HMI's, functionally it is perfect. One still needs a keyboard for the PC for some applications - especially PC maintenance and file handling - but it's generally not used while making parts.   A bit long winded, but I hope this helps!   Michael     To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 06:26:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   Hi Michael, I wonder if the PC is the key. Does KFlop need the PC to run custom routines? I do use a couple of Windows based special programs. Thanks, David. On 11/19/2014 10:46 PM, Michael Rosenfield mrosenfield@... [DynoMotion] wrote:     I am using a touch-screen monitor with the PC for the kflop on my 3-axis mill. I'm running KMotionCNC, and the whole thing is a very simple setup and works great!   Michael Rosenfield   To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com From: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 21:29:03 -0600 Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   I would think any that allow you to use RS232 Modbus RTU at a compatible data rate could be made to work. Without knowing your experience in C programming or programming industrial controls it might be steep learning curve, or it might be a piece of cake for you.   I have a KFLOP/KANALOG connected to a Automation Direct Do-More PLC and that is connected to a Automation Direct C-More Micro 6” HMI. I am using this setup because the price was right. I would use a Automation Direct CLICK PLC if I were to be buying the parts new. I am doing this because I needed additional I/O and the PLC currently has 4 serial ports and is plenty fast to hand being the “middle man”. I am not using the HMI for any functions yet, just some testing because I have no place to mount it yet.     Dan   From: mailto:DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:17 PM To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop     Hello Everyone, I am looking for a touchscreen HMI unit which would be a good fit for a KFlop/SnapAmp-controlled lathe. Has anyone come across one that you would recommend? What kind of features should I watch for with regard to connectivity? Thanks, David.           Group: DynoMotion Message: 10536 From: cnc_machines Date: 11/21/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop David, I am very happy using a Dell touch screen all in one PC. Looks very good and does all that I need. Both of these arms support the computer well - though I like the flexibility of the first one better. Inspiron 20 3000 Series (Intel®) Touch Inspiron 20 3000 Series (Intel®) Touch Get what you need – a computer, monitor and speakers – in an affordable, space-saving design that’s made for at-home entertainment and productivity. Get yours ... View on www.dell.com Preview by Yahoo   Ergotron MX Desk Mount LCD Arm - 45-214-026 - LCD & Television Mounts - CDW.com Ergotron MX Desk Mount LCD Arm - 45-214-026 - LCD & T... Buy a Ergotron MX Desk Mount LCD Arm at CDW.com View on www.cdw.com Preview by Yahoo   Ergotron Neo-Flex Extend LCD Arm - 45-235-194 - LCD & Television Mounts - CDW.com Ergotron Neo-Flex Extend LCD Arm - 45-235-194 - LCD & Te... Buy a Ergotron Neo-Flex Extend LCD Arm at CDW.com View on www.cdw.com Preview by Yahoo   Thanks, Scott Group: DynoMotion Message: 10538 From: Tapio Larikka Date: 11/21/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop  Hi David,   I have Shuttle X50V2 all-in-one PCs on both of my mills running Mach3 and KFlop. They got big enough resistive touch screen so that screen buttons can be made big. Since they are Intel Atom based PCs I have stripped down WinXp's on them. If You happen to end up with one of these remember to install a scratch resistant screen cover/foil.   Rgds, Tapio     ----- Original Message ----- From: David Stevenson david.m.stevenson@... [DynoMotion] To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   Thanks very much to everyone. It looks like I had better stick to the PC and I will certainly let you know what I come up with. Best regards, David. On 11/20/2014 12:19 PM, Tom Kerekes tk@... [DynoMotion] wrote:   Hi David, I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you. I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard. Let us know what you decide and how it works out. Regards TK Group: DynoMotion Message: 10540 From: David Stevenson Date: 11/21/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Hi Tapio, I didn't even realize there was an all-in-one PC, but it looks like a great solution and they seem to be priced not to badly. Thanks for the pointer regarding the screen protector... sounds like great advice! Best regards, David. On 11/21/2014 11:02 AM, 'Tapio Larikka' tapio.larikka@... [DynoMotion] wrote:    Hi David,   I have Shuttle X50V2 all-in-one PCs on both of my mills running Mach3 and KFlop. They got big enough resistive touch screen so that screen buttons can be made big. Since they are Intel Atom based PCs I have stripped down WinXp's on them. If You happen to end up with one of these remember to install a scratch resistant screen cover/foil.   Rgds, Tapio     ----- Original Message ----- From: David Stevenson david.m.stevenson@... [DynoMotion] To: DynoMotion@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [DynoMotion] HMI Touchscreen for KFlop   Thanks very much to everyone. It looks like I had better stick to the PC and I will certainly let you know what I come up with. Best regards, David. On 11/20/2014 12:19 PM, Tom Kerekes tk@... [DynoMotion] wrote:   Hi David, I think you need a Windows PC for your application (rather than a PLC type HMI).  Our GCode Interpreter, Trajectory Planner, Coordinated Motion Libraries, KMotionCNC GUI, and the TeachMotion Program you use all currently require to run on a Microsoft Windows PC.  KFLOP is capable of running in stand-alone mode without a PC for some simpler applications but I don't think that applies to you. I'd suggest a Windows PC with a reasonably sized touch screen monitor.  I had a W8 Laptop that had a Keyboard Failure.  I found that I could operate everything quite nicely with the pop-up on-screen keyboard. Let us know what you decide and how it works out. Regards TK Group: DynoMotion Message: 10543 From: David Stevenson Date: 11/21/2014 Subject: Re: HMI Touchscreen for KFlop Hi Scott, That looks like the ideal solution for me. Do you use it with a keyboard? Thanks very much! Best regards, David. On 11/21/2014 10:06 AM, cnc_machines@... 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